March 12, 2026

Chub Rub: Fat Babes & Crop Tops

Chub Rub: Fat Babes & Crop Tops

Send a text In this episode of Big Sexy Chat, Chrystal sits down with Candace Frank, the artist and designer behind Chub Rub Clothing, a brand creating bold fashion, art, and accessories rooted in fat liberation and unapologetic joy. Candace shares how growing up fat and unable to find clothes that fit pushed her to start making her own. That creative spark eventually led to an MFA in Costume Design and a career designing clothing that refuses to hide fat bodies. Together, Chrystal and Candac...

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Season 5

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In this episode of Big Sexy Chat, Chrystal sits down with Candace Frank, the artist and designer behind Chub Rub Clothing, a brand creating bold fashion, art, and accessories rooted in fat liberation and unapologetic joy.

Candace shares how growing up fat and unable to find clothes that fit pushed her to start making her own. That creative spark eventually led to an MFA in Costume Design and a career designing clothing that refuses to hide fat bodies.

Together, Chrystal and Candace talk about reclaiming the word fat, challenging anti-fat narratives through fashion, and why clothing should feel good physically and emotionally. They also get into crop tops, cow prints, trolls on the internet, and the importance of building strong fat community spaces.

Candace also talks about projects like Fat Con, her art practice, and the new Fat Babes Club keychain project, designed to help fat folks connect and celebrate being part of the community.

This episode is full of humor, honesty, and a reminder that fat people deserve dignity, joy, fashion, pleasure, and space exactly as they are.

In This Episode

  • Growing up fat and struggling to find clothing that actually fit
  • Learning to sew and designing clothes for fat bodies
  • Reclaiming the word fat and embracing fat liberation
  • Why bold fashion can be political
  • Crop tops, cow prints, and dressing for joy
  • Responding to trolls with compassion (and sometimes humor)
  • Building fat community through events like Fat Con
  • Designing clothing up to 7X
  • The Fat Babes Club keychain project and connecting fat community

About the Guest

Candace Frank is the artist and designer behind Chub Rub Clothing, a brand dedicated to fat liberation through bold fashion, art, and gifts.

She earned her MFA in Costume Design and has designed and produced costumes for dozens of plays, musicals, and operas. In 2015 she co-created Bawdy Love Clothing, a plus size lingerie and kink wear brand that operated until 2022.

Candace also co-founded Fat Con, a three-day fat liberation conference in Seattle, and in 2025 helped launch Seattle Fat Mall, an eight-month downtown pop-up featuring fat-centered makers and businesses.

When she’s not creating clothing or art, Candace enjoys painting, crocheting, reading tarot, and photography.

Connect with Candace

Chub Rub Clothing
 Website: https://chubrubclothing.com

Instagram: @chubrubclothing
 Facebook: Chub Rub Clothing

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00:00 - New Host, New Era

00:56 - Meet Candace Of Chubrub Clothing

02:10 - Reclaiming Fat As An Identity

04:21 - From Diet Culture To Fat Liberation

07:20 - Medical Bias And Bodily Dignity

09:08 - Chubrub’s Mission, Sizing, And Prints

11:24 - Art, Costumes, And Making What Didn’t Exist

13:01 - Community Power And Troll Tactics

14:34 - The Keychain Club And Belonging

16:20 - Fashion Rules, Comfort, And Confidence

18:10 - Underwear That Actually Fits

19:52 - Access, Sizing To 7X, And Allies

21:20 - Gratitude, Cross-Community Lift, Closing

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Welcome back to Big Sexy Chat.

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On this episode, Crystal sits down with Candace Frank, the artist and designer behind Chubrub Clothing, a brand creating bold fashion and art rooted in fat liberation and joy.

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Together, they get into clothing, community, trolls, and what it looks like to live loudly and unapologetically in a fat body.

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Let's get into it.

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Welcome back to Big Sexy Chat.

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I'm Crystal, the co-host.

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Well, I used to be the co-host, now I'm the host.

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For those of you who don't know, Murph is gonna take a little hiatus from Big Sexy Chat, and we're gonna keep on rolling with the rolling with the dough, rolling in the dough, hopefully.

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And today I'm excited to have my first guest since we announced the hiatus by Murph.

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We're gonna miss her so much, but she'll be around.

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Anyway, I'm very excited.

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Today I have Candace from Chubb Rub Chloe.

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Hi.

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Hi, Candace.

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So thank you for being here today.

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Thank you.

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On a Sunday.

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Yeah, it's great to be here.

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Okay.

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I love everything you do.

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Thank you.

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I love everything you stand for.

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Thank you.

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You see me all the time on Instagram saying, that's right, eat that donut, bitches.

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Eat those cookies, assholes.

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Because we both know as fat people that doesn't matter what you do, people are gonna hate on you anyway.

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So you might as well eat the fucking thing on camera or whatever, because I don't know why people have disdain for fat people.

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Projection.

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Yeah, probably.

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And then um, nothing pisses people off more than someone who's fat, sassy, happy, secure, proud, and not dieting.

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It really pisses people off.

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Truly.

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When did you come out as fat?

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That's such a funny question to me.

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I have been fat.

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I was born fat.

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I was a big fat baby.

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Same.

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And uh I don't know if I came out as fat.

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I've always been fat.

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And I've always been like, yeah, I'm fat.

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Even in high school, I made a bunch of badges for all my friends that said, Do these shoes make me look fat?

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Because I thought that was really funny.

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Like, of course, your shoes can't make you look fat.

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Um, but you know, uh I've I've always been a very large human being.

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I'm also six foot two.

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Um, I was 5'11 in the fifth grade uh and a size 18.

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Um, and that's this is my life.

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Candace, I'm older than you, but um, did you ever have that era in your life where you had to wear like professional clothes to work?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, Lane Bright face.

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I was a kid before Lane Bryan existed.

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So I'm I might be older than you think.

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Um uh yeah, I mean, definitely grew up like having to wear men's clothes from Walmart.

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Yes, that was all that was available in my size.

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Um and then Lane Bryant, of course, when Lane Bryant came around, and then I think around the end of high school, Torrid started existing.

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And I had one pair of Torrid jeans that I wore and resowed back together over and over and over again until they were like only thread.

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It's before only fans, only thread.

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Yeah.

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Uh-huh.

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Like I'm sure you've had this experience a million times, but your thighs rub together and it makes a big hole in your thighs.

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And um I don't know about you, but I'm 58.

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So, like when I was in elementary and junior high, corduroy was really in.

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And if you're fat and you wear corduroy, you can literally start a fire.

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Everybody hears you coming.

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Yes.

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Oh, I kind of like used to like corduroy, but now I don't, I think it looks so outdated, but sometimes it looks kind of cool now, too.

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But anyway, so um when did you when did you feel comfortable saying the word fat instead of chubby or fluffy or curvy or whatever?

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You know, that's a really good question.

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Um, even though I've been fat my whole life, I didn't really learn about fat liberation and body positivity and such until maybe about 15 years ago.

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So that would put us like 2010-ish.

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Um uh at the time I was in the middle of the most intense dieting I've ever done, uh, losing 130 pounds in maybe six months.

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Um, very unhealthy, and uh actually even ended up in the ICU, uh a really bad time in my life.

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And I found out about this, and at first it made me so angry.

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And actually, that's one of the tools that I use that memory of how angry it made me when I deal with trolls, because I get it.

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Like it's upsetting.

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You've been living your life by this rule, and this rule is like hard and fast and very definitive of who you are, and it's bullshit, it's total bullshit.

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And when you find out you want to hate the person who told you, I get it.

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You wanna are you saying you want to hate the person who told you it's okay to be fat and happy?

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Yeah, uh-huh.

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It I mean, for me, it was somebody who I grew up with who became part of the fat liberation movement.

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And uh when I found out that she was into all this stuff, I thought she was totally insane.

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And I thought um uh I was mad.

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I was genuinely very mad at her.

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Wow.

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Um, and uh I feel very thankful now that uh I had the opportunity to learn about it from her, that um she put herself out to be judged in order to fight for this thing she cares about and put me in a position where I can do the same thing.

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That's so cool.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of why we decided to start our podcast.

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Just like if I make one 15-year-old girl or kid or some grown woman go, you know what, they're right.

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Because I know I've been on a hundred diets.

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Like our last guest, Jen from Plus Mommy, her parents met at a Weight Watcher's meeting.

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So she's basically been dieting since before she was even birthed.

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Yeah.

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And people feel a little bit like they're in control of their life when they're on an eating diet plan.

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And I I I cannot relate to that because whenever I was on a diet, I've never felt like I was in more control, other than control the fucking patriarchy, which now, because of the way that they things are growing going in the world right now, everybody's talking about like, hey, y'all, this beauty standard is really for men who like prepubescent children.

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Why are we trying to even meet this beauty standard?

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Which they're not wrong.

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Yeah.

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But um, I'm just waiting for them to connect that to GLP ones.

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It's like right now we're getting the like they want peep pre-pubescent girls, and we don't want to be like that, and we're getting still diet, diet, diet.

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And it's like we haven't, a lot of people haven't seemed to bridge yet that those things are connected, and that, you know, when you're dieting, you're making yourself smaller and weaker.

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Uh, I mean, not to say that you want to get larger so that you're not small and weak, but I'm just saying um that seems counter to what we should want.

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Definitely, you know, because when I was growing up, it was definitely like, you know, I graduated high school from in the mid 80s, and um, it was definitely like you're gonna be polite, you're gonna be classy, which we all know the word classy is a social construct.

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What's classy in one culture is not classy in another.

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If you can't see me, I'm using air quotes around the word classy, smaller, quiet, you know, shh, don't be so loud, don't be so brash.

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But I was like, fuck all of this, and um, I don't know.

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I just wanted I didn't want to be like, I don't want to be smaller, I wanted to be like, I want to be president of the United States, I want to be, I want to be me.

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I didn't want anybody trying to control and I I have to stop us because I just get so excited to talk to you and I forgot that I really like my guests to talk about who they are in the beginning, and that share your website and all that your socials just in case people don't listen to the ending.

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I want people to who've listened nine minutes to know exactly how to find you and who you are, and then I'll get excited again.

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Okay, so you want me to share about me?

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That's great.

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I'm so good at that.

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Um good.

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Share your website for sure, though.

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Uh, I am the designer behind Chubrub Clothing.

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Um, we make fat clothing and art that's bold and colorful and refuses to be hidden.

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Uh, it's all about fat liberation through joy and um movement, excitement, visual movement, all of that stuff.

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Uh, the website is chubrubclothing.com.

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Our Instagram is ChubrubClothing, our Facebook is Chubrub Clothing.

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It's pretty easy to find us if you type in Chubrub Clothing anywhere.

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I was checking out your website because I was looking to see like what sizes you go to and all that kind of stuff.

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And I know you know this like me because I also sell shirts, t-shirts.

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Harder to get things once you get above a 4x.

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Yeah, 5x, a 6x, 7, 8, 8x, it's a bitch to find.

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Definitely, yeah.

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And you can't find it um on print on demand, so you have to have big stocks of them sitting somewhere.

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Print on demand, people stop at 3x.

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I I get print on demand up to a 5x.

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Okay, okay, cool.

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If I want to go above that, I have to stock it and score it in my tiny home.

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That's what I do too.

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So your clothing is meant to not shrink anybody.

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Like, even some of your prints look like a Holstein cow.

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It's true.

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It's the most in-your-face shit.

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I love that.

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Yeah, I really like to turn the ideas that people have about fatness around on them.

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Like, hey, did you guys ever notice cows are incredibly cute and they're like really smart animals, and there's a lot of great things about cows, and cow print is really cool looking.

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And why shouldn't we dress in all cow print?

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And if that's challenging to someone, then maybe that's an opportunity for them.

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I think if they're gonna politicize our bodies, then I'm gonna politicize what's on our bodies.

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So hell yeah.

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Yeah, that's I love the um the prints called cow now, right?

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Or cow wow, cownow?

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Cownow.

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How now, cow, how now, brown cow?

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But it's not brown, yeah.

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It's black and white.

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Black and white is a classic color, it's classy, Candice.

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Very classy.

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Anything.

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Yeah, I love your shirt that you're wearing, fat and happy, and that's on your website.

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Yes, it is.

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Um, Moo Dang.

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I love to share hippo content.

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I love hippo content.

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I love all hippos.

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I think I just can't get enough.

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It's important to reframe, like, we see roles on our bodies, and we think gross, right?

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But when you start reframing it, like when you start looking at a cute little hippo and he's all shiny and roly, or she, she's all shiny and roly and cute, and you start going, hey, I kind of look shiny and roly and cute.

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That's weird.

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That's a surprise, right?

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I mean, context is really important, and the context that we've all learned about our bodies is that they're never gonna be right.

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Never.

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I just like to share share places where you have to question the context.

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Yeah.

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Like I also love to take photos, I take all the photos or most of the photos of my models, um, the majority of the photos.

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And I love to take photos where they're eating, where they're like slouching, like looking fat, you know, where they're like biting something.

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Yes, eating a giant maple bar.

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That's exactly it.

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So challenging.

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And I really feel like people, the viewer, just having the experience of feeling angry when they see it forces them, hopefully, at least some of them, to question why they're feeling that way.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, I mean, I've never heard anybody say, Oh my god, that polar bear is so fat, it's disgusting.

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Right?

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I mean, there are pigs, there are hogs that are so fat, and I mean, they're just that's how they are, and so cute, so cute, so stinking cute.

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Stinky, stinky, you said it stinky, yeah, but cute.

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Yeah, I don't understand.

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Like when I used to have my boutique, you know, I would tell people who are really struggling, have you ever been near a redwood tree?

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Do you know how fucking enormous a redwood tree is?

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Nobody goes, Oh my god, that redwood tree is huge, it's hideous, it's too big, it's too fat, it's too wide, it's too tall.

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And then you go stand next to a redwood tree, you feel so tiny.

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Yeah, like beautiful.

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Put this in perspective, y'all.

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It's we all like every redwood tree is fucking majestic and they're all different sizes, they're beautiful, they're strong.

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Why don't we see ourselves that way?

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And why don't we see others that way?

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I mean, you know, it's just reprogramming.

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You should have to reprogram yourself, essentially.

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I want to read off some of your other shirts, okay?

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It's um STFU, shut the fuck up.

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Everybody should have that one for sure.

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You have PCOS, I'm guessing.

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Yes.

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Because you know my co-host Murph has PCOS.

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So you have a PCOS shirt, Fat Witch, Fupa Pride, hello.

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Okay, yeah.

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I got a chalupa though, not a Fupa.

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I have an epic, I'm just gonna come out right now on your show.

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I have an epic Fupa.

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It is like a whole titty, and I need to be proud of it, and I need to be with people who love it, who appreciate it.

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Yeah, I've never met anybody who went, oh my god, your your lips are way too fat.

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I I can't put my tongue or my penis there.

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It's just no way.

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It's not how it works, you know?

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Never not even once.

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I've been fat since the third grade.

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Be with somebody who that's not their thing too, right?

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But if that's your thing, that's that's where I'm coming from.

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So Yep.

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Fat babes.

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Of course, the one you have on now, Fat and Happy.

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I love that one.

00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:34.799
Um, you have crop tops.

00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.840
Yeah, but my god, fat girls can't wear crop tops, Candace.

00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:38.480
What are you thinking?

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I know it's crazy.

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I love to get my tummy out.

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Feels good, huh?

00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:44.879
Get some air on it.

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Tummies are so cute.

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When did you yes, they are?

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I mean, I love a worm tummy.

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When did you start learning that you could sew or you could make clothes or that you were an artist?

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You know, I think this is actually a story that many fat designers have.

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I learned when I couldn't buy any clothes.

00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:15.279
So I when I was young, I couldn't buy any clothes that weren't um men's clothes or business casual, of course.

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Uh, especially when I was in high school, Torrid didn't even exist yet.

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So I just learned to start making my own clothes.

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Um, sometimes from a pattern, sometimes I just winged it.

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I don't really know exactly how I pulled it all off.

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I just started making stuff all the time on my mom's old green sewing machine.

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And uh later, much later, I went to college for theater and film.

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And when I was there, I started learning costuming.

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The costuming led me to learn more about sewing.

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At this point, I have a master's of fine arts and costume design.

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Um, I know a lot, a lot about how clothes are made.

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Um uh I can't remember where I was gonna go after that.

00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.519
And you you draw and paint and sketch and all kinds of other things too, right?

00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:14.480
Yeah, I draw all the patterns on all the clothes too.

00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.480
Like um the one, there's one that's like snakes all interwoven.

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I hand drew all those snakes and everything.

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Um, and then I paint, I post art a lot, I make stickers, um, all kinds of stuff.

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I honestly I'm one of those kind of people who the through line of all my work is the fat liberation, but the um techniques really vary a lot.

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I mean, I just posted today a digital woodcut that I did.

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Um, I, you know, I'm not like always doing those.

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Sometimes I'm doing paintings or um collage, all kinds of art.

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I see you have a, I'm gonna just call it a fat mannequin behind you.

00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:02.160
Oh, yeah.

00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:02.960
Fat form.

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What size is that form?

00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.240
Uh he's a 3X.

00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:06.880
Okay.

00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:09.920
It's but he can be padded out to be many open sizes.

00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:10.720
Yeah.

00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:17.440
He was uh salvaged from a large retailer in the Seattle area who was throwing him away.

00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:18.079
Oh.

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And he's worth probably like$700.

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So I had to take him.

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They're pricey, I know.

00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:23.599
Yeah.

00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.799
Even fat mannequins just for your store is really expensive.

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Almost impossible to get.

00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:29.680
Yeah, I know.

00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.480
So tell me, um, first of all, do you have a good time at FatCon?

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We didn't really even get to talk at FatCon.

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Yeah, it's always a world when I always have an amazing time.

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Unfortunately, this time I did come down with some kind of virus halfway through.

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So I had to miss the um fashion show, but the video of it was amazing.

00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.599
And I'm lucky to have a team that put it together for me while I wasn't there.

00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.359
Um, but yeah, FatCon is always just amazing.

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It fills your whole cup up for the year.

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You know, I find I walk away feeling invigorated again, ready to get back in the trenches, so to speak.

00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:15.200
Um dealing with trolls and all of that stuff, as you can probably guess, can be very, very daunting.

00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.920
My posts sometimes attract a lot of trolls, a lot of trolls.

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You bad girl.

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You're just so naughty out there acting all like you're just gonna live.

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I love it.

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I do too.

00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:28.079
I do too.

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Sometimes I really like to fuck with them back because I love to say, like, thank you for your engagement.

00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:35.519
And then Facebook, Zuckerberg, pays me when I get a lot of engagement.

00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:38.960
And I'm like, thank you, cha-ching, cha-ching, and that pisses them off.

00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.759
Well, I like to say, what fat girl, did a fat girl turn you down, Bob?

00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:52.000
Taylor, Tyler, Dakota, uh, whatever their incel's names are, did a fat girl turn you down, or did some fat girl hurt your feelings?

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Absolutely.

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I love that.

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Um, one of my favorite things to say to them is uh just to hit them really hard with like a lot of therapy and love.

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Like, um, okay, so let's say somebody says something like, um, you need to earn my respect, and you haven't earned it with a body like that.

00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:30.079
So one of my favorite responses to something like that would be like, um, uh, I'm really sorry that somebody taught you that you have to earn respect and that your body isn't valid unless you earn it.

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But, you know, I hope you work through that someday.

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And I find that it stops them really in their tracks.

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Like they're not really ready to be read like that.

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That's great.

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I like that.

00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.839
I need to adopt that one too.

00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:45.440
Yeah.

00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:51.839
Also, you know, and Jen from Plus Mobby talked about this in her TED talk.

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You know, you deserve dignity respect just by being existing.

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You don't have to burn a donut by getting doing a certain amount of steps, or I can't have ice cream unless I go for a run.

00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.839
I'm like, y'all are doing life wrong.

00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:07.279
That's not how this works.

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Just I deserve all the dignity and respect that a thin person gets afforded just for being existing the way they look.

00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:17.920
Why wouldn't I get that much dignity and respect?

00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.519
And that's what Jen was sort of advocating for for her TED talk.

00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:27.599
It's like when she was, you know, having be a baby, people didn't want to give her oxygen.

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Like she didn't earn the right to breathe, clearly, because she was fat.

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Like, that's fucked up.

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It's wild.

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That's wild.

00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:39.920
I mean, I it's the same when I've had to have some surgeries, you know.

00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:47.839
In the last few years, I've had some health issues I've gone through, and none of them have been really related to my size in any way.

00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:56.319
But of course, the doctors want to wait and pass you off to somebody else until they find a doctor who's willing to do it.

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And inevitably, the doctor willing to do it says something like, That's ridiculous.

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This is easy.

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I don't know why they did that.

00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:12.799
Um, but you know, it's the same deal where it's like, just give me the dignity to give me this surgery and move on with my life.

00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.559
Waiting for months is hurting me in a different way.

00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:18.000
That happened to me twice.

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Yeah.

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And anesthesiologists were just like, I'm like, are you gonna give me a lecture?

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.039
Like, what are you talking about?

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I go, Well, I'm fat.

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Aren't you gonna tell me you can't sedate me?

00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:31.279
They're like, no, do you think you're the first fat person I put under for sedation?

00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:35.920
But I was worried right up until the minute they put me under, they were gonna turn me down.

00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:37.279
Oh my gosh.

00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:39.759
Yeah, it just should not be like this.

00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.839
Fat doctors have internalized anti-fatness.

00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:44.960
Definitely.

00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:54.720
They don't learn much about fat bodies in medical school, and as you probably know, they don't take fat cadavers because they they don't have the right equipment and all that stuff.

00:22:54.799 --> 00:23:01.519
Anyway, I I could go on that whole I want to talk about I want to talk about Chub Reb because you have such good stuff going on.

00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.440
I know community means a lot to you.

00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:10.000
You have a really when you were sick, your community was like right there for you, and they all stood in for you.

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:10.480
Yeah.

00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.920
I mean, I've got just a whole community of ride or dies.

00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.119
It's amazing.

00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.759
And they step up for me again and again.

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And I mean, I've got local community, I've got community around the world, and that's part of what fat liberation is.

00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:32.799
It's like we need each other for validation, for safety, for understanding.

00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:39.599
Talking to somebody who just gets what you're dealing with without having to explain it is very important.

00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:50.799
So now more than ever, because our hateful um government is like and they're racist, and you know, it's just so gross.

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:55.839
But um, I want to know more about the keychains in the your keychain club.

00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:01.119
Yeah, um, uh, this is a this came about really organically.

00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.319
Like, I wanted to make these keychains.

00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:08.400
First, it was just about making keychains, okay?

00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:17.839
Like, I liked the idea of somebody having something on their keys that constantly reminds them of being part of the community.

00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.039
You know what I mean?

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:29.680
And so I made this keychain that was like Fat Babe's Club, and they're all individually numbered, so you get your actual place in the club.

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:37.839
Now, this is so silly of me because for some reason it didn't connect to me to actually make a club at first.

00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:47.200
But then, of course, one of my dear friends named Eli, he was like, Listen, why aren't you making this into a club?

00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.200
He, you know, he's very resourceful.

00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:59.440
He like threw together this list right away, sign up and right at FATCON, we were able to start capturing having people claim their numbers directly.

00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:08.240
And um, we're just gonna use it as a way to connect community, let people know about important things happening, have discussions.

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:14.559
We're still kind of trying to figure out exactly what technological framework we want to do it in.

00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.759
I really don't want to create another Discord.

00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.359
Oh, yeah, there's a lot.

00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:20.160
Yeah.

00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:27.680
Um, but it I think it's shaping up to be kind of a um newsletter that takes submissions.

00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.960
Um, and I'm really excited about it.

00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.839
And I actually will be releasing more keychains.

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I've only released um the first 50 so far, but the keychains will go up to 9,999.

00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.960
And I will make sure that every one of them goes to a person.

00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:48.559
Um I love it.

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.480
And you will have your number.

00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:56.480
So when you get number, and let me assure you, 69 is called, okay?

00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:02.640
So we're twice 666, all the numbers, all the special numbers.

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.279
Um, but you can still get a great keychain.

00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:11.359
And when you get your number, um you get to register it, and that's yours forever.

00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.119
Or until you maybe you could pass it down to your children.

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.200
Tell people how to get one.

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:18.160
How can we get one now?

00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.640
Um, well, you can't get one right now.

00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:21.359
Oh, okay.

00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:21.839
Not online.

00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.599
And then uh, no, that's right.

00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:32.559
Uh, March 1st, we will have them on our website, Chubrub Clothing, and you'll just you can pick your actual number.

00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:40.319
Um, but there's you know, it's like a drop-down, you have to pick that one number, and then it won't be available anymore.

00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.640
So you'll want to be like right there.

00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.559
Okay, I'm gonna mark my calendar March 1st.

00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:45.039
I want one.

00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:45.440
Yeah, March.

00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.119
So it'll be on chubrub clothing.com?

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:49.680
Correct.

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.799
Okay, cool.

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:57.680
Um, when you uh when you all have community events, are you like me?

00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:04.960
Do you find it super powerful and kind of fun and kind of like a big fuck you to go out to eat with a bunch of other fatties?

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.359
Oh my god, yes, it's the best, right?

00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:17.039
One of my favorite things is to make it like into a whole production, like where we're like feeding each other and stuff, like people are like getting upset.

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.359
They get so mad, yeah.

00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:24.000
They get they get really mad or they just stare a lot.

00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.079
Um, I don't know.

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:40.000
For some reason, pushing people's button with things that are like girl, excuse me, for some reason pushing people's button with things that are like not really a challenge if you're not fat.

00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:47.119
Like, no, no one thin would care if a thin girl was feeding another thin girl some cake, you know what I mean?

00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.359
But when two fat girls do it, it's it's a thing, right?

00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:52.799
Blasphemy.

00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:54.480
Yes, exactly.

00:27:54.799 --> 00:28:04.079
So stupid, it makes me so excited to force people to feel that and maybe realize how ridiculous they're being.

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.920
I I don't know why, but this is like where all my juice lives.

00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:09.440
Same, same.

00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:24.799
You know, like when I was about in the third grade, I don't know why who I was so angry at, but um when I was a kid, you could go make your own uh iron-on t-shirts to get transfers and stuff, and for some reason, I got one that said when God created man, she was only joking.

00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.000
I know now why I was mad at the patriarchy.

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.680
I my dad was not happy.

00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:38.640
I'll use my own money, and I could I love wearing that shirt, like it started to fall off the shirt, so I was trying to iron it back on.

00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:44.880
I just wanted to piss people off, and I don't even I didn't even know why I was so angry then, but now it's it makes it all clear to me now.

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.920
But then I was like, I was an angry little fucking 11-year-old.

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.599
Damn woman, what happened?

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.720
Yeah, I was a very angry teenager as well.

00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:12.480
I had to wear tough skins from fucking Sears, and they would have to like hem them like 18 inches, so they would fit a man, but they had to fit my my fat little body, and you know, I'd have like I mean it was bad, you know, and they're tough skins, they are itchy and stuff, stiff.

00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.000
No wonder I was mad, you know.

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.160
They could have cut off the bottom of your pants and put them on the bottom of my pants.

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.640
They wanted to make it so I could, you know, let them out as a couple taller, I guess.

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:23.920
Oh, I see.

00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:25.680
We were, I think we were kind of broke.

00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:31.440
We were kind of a little bit, and um we we had everything we needed, but we didn't have a lot of extras at the time when I was little, you know.

00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:39.039
And yeah, I think my mom was just trying to this is gonna be a problem like her whole life, so let's figure this out now.

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.039
And then I then I moved to my blazer phase, you know.

00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:47.279
So I oh my gosh, the blazers, the blouses.

00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:50.079
Blouse, yeah, with the ruffles.

00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.480
Oh, I can't set anything fussy now.

00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.480
What's in right now for fashion?

00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.720
Like, what's the new thing that our everybody's talking about?

00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.680
And can can fat people do whatever they want, wear wherever we want.

00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.119
Do we have to follow any rules now, Candace?

00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:02.640
No, we don't have to follow any rules.

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.440
I mean, here's the rule I would like you to follow.

00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:12.319
Wear something that makes you feel good, whether that's physically good, emotionally good, I don't care.

00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.160
However, you feel good, wear something that makes you feel good.

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.839
If you want to be in something comfortable, wear something comfortable.

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.480
If you want to show your tomtum, show your tomtum, you know.

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:30.880
Um uh I grew up in Florida and it's hot as fuck in Florida.

00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.119
It's humid, which makes me really bitchy.

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:34.160
Oh, it's awful.

00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:43.599
And I grew up like layered, like shirt, sweater, jeans, paint, you know, like all this stuff in the hottest days of the year.

00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.359
And more than one time I had heat stroke because of this.

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.400
Um, so comfort is really important to me.

00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:56.480
Uh, staying cool, making clothes that stay cool is really important to me, strangely.

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.799
But um, what is in right now in fashion?

00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.880
I mean Well, so I noticed some skirts now are made with longer backs.

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.720
So, because whenever I put a skirt on my eyes, can we just have that in all skirts now, please?

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:18.240
Do you mean it like it's a high low, like it's dramatically longer in back, or is it just a little bit to accommodate your butt?

00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.480
Just a little bit to accommodate my butt is what I've seen.

00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:21.200
I've seen both.

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.680
That's how we make our skirts, and um that's how it should be.

00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.039
Yes, yes.

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.880
If I'm if you're over like a size 12, I think you need a little bit more because hips and butt cheeks, right?

00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.160
So when you go this way, you go right and left, that brings things up.

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.839
And then when you have a babao, that brings things up.

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.359
I just I don't want to show my ass to everybody, some people, but not everybody.

00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.000
I mean, yeah, you should get to decide.

00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.000
Thank you.

00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.640
That's it, that's all it's all it is, right?

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.559
I should get to decide.

00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.599
Yeah.

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:55.680
Do you make underwear?

00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:07.680
Yeah, I do make underwear, I make um songs and uh what I call swimmable lingerie because there's like half the people like to swim in it, half the people like to wear it as lingerie.

00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:14.640
Personally, I think the best use of it would be jello wrestling, it's washable and then it's hot as fuck.

00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.319
So yeah, it is.

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.359
Do you know Bertha from Size Queen Clothing?

00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.039
Uh, I don't think so.

00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:28.799
I'm wearing right now underwear or bathing suit with donuts all over it.

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:30.640
I love it.

00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:42.319
I think they're supposed to be a bathing suit, but I love them so much I have them on right now because you know when you're 58, you gotta wear a panty liner with everything because it's fucking gonna if I sneeze, I'm gonna pee everywhere.

00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.519
So it has a like nice big fat crotch.

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.240
I need like what is that stupid crotch called?

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:49.759
That stupid crotch.

00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:50.240
I don't know.

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.519
What's what's the crotch area called?

00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.000
I want I want a bigger I want my white crotch.

00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:56.960
Gusset?

00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.599
The gusset, I need wider gussets for my fupa.

00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:00.480
Yes, yes.

00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:10.559
I we do I specifically design our panties and bottoms to have wide gussets, like it's like a little hammock that holds your fupa.

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.680
And then you kill you're welcome.

00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:20.480
And then also they have um all fabric, no elastic in the leg holes.

00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:26.079
Because I don't know if you've ever had leg holes that start to like cut into your like skin skin.

00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:27.920
If you're sleeping with it, nuts.

00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:32.079
I'll wake up in the night the next day, I'm like, Jesus Christ, I'm like being cut in half.

00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:43.519
Yeah, and so I feel like what happened with a lot of manufacturers is like Torrid, for instance, they just started taking off the elastic, but then your junk can just fall right out of it at any time.

00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:48.400
So this way with the cloth binding, everything gets held in place.

00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:55.759
I mean, I even have like pole dancers who buy them specifically because they know they're not gonna have a lip slip.

00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.559
Um it's they're frowned upon.

00:33:59.200 --> 00:33:59.680
Yeah.

00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.279
Unfortunately, they are frowned upon.

00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:02.559
A little illegal.

00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.119
Unless you're thin, then it's okay.

00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.920
Anything if you're thin.

00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.000
I've noticed that too, yeah.

00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.760
Although Janet Jackson did get in trouble for her nip slip, but um, that was him and her.

00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.360
That was a long time ago.

00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.159
It was old days, really old days.

00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.079
Yeah, we didn't even see a nip.

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:21.920
It was uh it was uh pasty.

00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.320
I never, yeah, I don't was stupid.

00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.559
Um so what's next for you?

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:34.960
And also tell everybody too, like what sizes you you uh create and make for everybody because I know it's like you said, we talked about earlier, it's harder to get anything over a 4x.

00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.400
Yeah, we do a large up to a 7x.

00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:47.920
I won't make anything smaller than a large unless it's like a t-shirt and you can wear it as a supporter, as an ally.

00:34:48.159 --> 00:35:06.400
Like I I thought I would never go under a large, but then I was at an event and uh vending, and a performer came up to me and said, I want to wear a shirt that says fat girls don't owe you shit, even though I'm not fat, I agree that fat girls don't owe you shit.

00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.280
And I was like genius.

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:16.400
So I started making those available then, but everything else goes up to a 7x.

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.599
Um, no, pineapple.

00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:21.519
That is not correct.

00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:30.480
Um, many things that I carry go up to a 7x, especially when I anytime I can decide, like when I'm doing the full manufacturing of it.

00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.119
Okay, yeah.

00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:41.039
Some of my t-shirts, you know, like you were saying, it's so hard to find the larger sizes, and um, I have yet to find a source where I can do that.

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:42.880
Uh still working on that.

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:49.760
But um, yeah, anything that I make or that I have made uh does come up to a 7x.

00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.679
That's really important to me.

00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.920
I've really been from 2x to 7x.

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.760
You know, I've waffled through those during my life.

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:05.440
And I think the whole time I deserved access to things like this.

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.840
Everyone else of any size deserves access to things like this.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:19.920
I even think the smaller people do deserve access, but I just have only so much energy, so they can go ahead and not get it.

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.719
Yeah, there's that.

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.400
And they can buy clothes anywhere.

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.159
But what's that?

00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.239
And they can buy clothes anywhere.

00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.000
Absolutely.

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.159
Did you see the girl at this last the third fat con?

00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:40.400
She found a shirt thrifting that said she was very petite girl.

00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.760
And it said, fat girls taste better.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.280
I did not see that.

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.719
No, I told her, you don't have to, you don't, you never have to thrift again.

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:49.679
That is it.

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.760
You have hit that's the land, that's what everybody's been searching for.

00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.840
Every thrift person is looking for that shirt.

00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.920
You found it, you could retire.

00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.199
That's hilarious.

00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.440
I was like, girl, where'd you get that thrifting?

00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.239
I like clearly she's into fat girls, you know?

00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:05.519
Yeah, it's so beautiful.

00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:10.079
That was all I bow down to you and your thrifting abilities.

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.880
And she's actually from the Bay Area, so she's like, I think it's Sunny.

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:19.440
I hope she listens to this so she knows I'm giving her a shout out because badass t-shirt on fat girls taste better.

00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:20.960
Yeah, that's a good one.

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:21.599
I love it.

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:22.480
I agree.

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.519
Thank you so much.

00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.280
All your posts make me so fat and happy.

00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:31.519
And I like I said, I love your shirt, and I appreciate your politics and your love of community because I feel the same way.

00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.079
I love my fat community, and we need each other.

00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.280
We all need each other right now.

00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.559
Yeah, we really do.

00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:54.400
I want my community to know all about you and know about you, how you handle the trolls and with your about your clothing and your, you know, just like your overall, you know, your overall uh love and you're cheerleading all of us on all the time, I feel like.

00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:55.840
So I I appreciate you so much.

00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.920
I'm glad that comes across because that's really important to me.

00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:00.639
Yeah.

00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:07.199
I I really genuinely do think of myself as a cheerleader for other a fat cheerleader.

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.400
Yeah, I have a fat cheer set on my website.

00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.239
Great, love it.

00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.320
So, Candace, I appreciate everything you do.

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.960
Thank you so much for being on Big Sexy Chat tonight.

00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:22.079
And as soon as we have this edited, we'll get it out to you, and you can share with your community, and I'll share with my community.

00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.559
Well, I'm sure we have lots of overlap, but I'm sure there's lots of people that don't know in my community don't know about you, and your community doesn't know about us.

00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:32.400
And yes, we want to make lots more fat liberation in the years to come.

00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:34.320
Yeah, thank you for having me.

00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:35.920
It's been anytime.

00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.280
Go chubrubclothing.com, go check her out.

00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:40.960
Yeah, yes.

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:41.920
You're the best.

00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:43.119
See you later, alligator.

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.079
Goodbye for now.

00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.119
Happy cow.